Some NH Tea Party Members Still Not Sold On Romney

Some prominent NH Tea Party members see him as the man to beat Obama, but others say he falls short.

Mitt Romney will need to watch his step around a particular political group, because they seem to hate being tread on.

The Tea Party movement has a message that has been made loud and clear the past few years: fiscal responsibility, personal liberty and constitutional rights. They claim not to blindly follow either party, which means Romney will need to be more than just a Republican or “Not-Obama.”

Some think he can do it, others are not so sure. 

“Has Romney won me over? No is the answer,” said Jerry DeLemus, former chairman of the Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC and the founder of the Rochester 9-12 Project.

New Hampshire has been known to have many liberty-minded citizens, and in that spirit, DeLemus has taken the liberty of withholding his vote for Romney.

Why? Because he claims Romney has been ignoring Tea Party-affiliated liberty groups in the state, such as his, and has not been making an effort to really show where he stands on their issues.

He said that he has gone to great lengths to reach out to Romney in order to get him to talk to Tea Partiers beyond political talking points and sound bites. He may be afraid to be put on the spot and face the hard questions, said DeLemus.

Communication may be the key to gaining favor from this skeptical group of political activists.

“What he needs to do is convince us he is concerned about our opinions and open a dialogue with us,” he added. “We need to know his plans. The liberty groups in the country are not going to jump on the Romney train unless he earns their vote.”

Other Tea Party-affiliated activists disagree and say they have seen Romney reaching out to their ranks.

“Every time I have reached out to the Romney organization or campaign, they have responded,” said Corey Lewandowski, executive director of the Americans For Prosperity New Hampshire. “I have even had a one-on-one with Romney himself.”

So, it seems that Romney is reaching out to some Tea Party groups, but may be leaving others out.

Lewandowski added that Romney’s business background is good for the Tea Party movement, who believe in a free market and fiscal responsibility. He, like many Republicans, just want to see President Barack Obama out of office.

Republican Liberty Caucus of New Hampshire chairwoman Carolyn McKinney said that she is in the same boat as other Tea Party activists in the state when she says her vote goes to “Anybody-But-Obama.”

“I think that President Obama just needs to be replaced, and if Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee, I think he is in the best position to replace Obama,” she said. “He’ll get my vote because he is better than Obama.”

She added that Tea Party voters are looking for a candidate to take a “bold stand” for the U.S. Constitution. 

Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC chair Jack Kimball agrees the New Hampshire Tea Party, which he said is alive and well, needs to stand behind Romney. He said that he had always intended to back the Republican nominee because having Obama in office again would be “unacceptable.

“I know people who are hesitating,” said Kimball, “but at the end of the day, what are the alternatives?”

But Romney may not be able to rely on the “Anybody-But-Obama” vote.

Many and his long-held beliefs of personal freedom and revamping our financial system. Many of these Tea Party/Paul supporters don’t see much of a difference between Romney and Obama; and that is a big problem for Romney.

Jane Aitken is the spokeswoman for the NH Tea Party Coalition, which is made up of 51 separate activist groups. A Ron Paul supporter, she said that Romney has been “forced” onto Republican voters by the GOP establishment. On top of that, both candidates are being controlled by special interests in everything from the economy to foreign policies.

“There is not going to be much change with Romney, so we might as well let Obama win,” said Aitken. “We can agree that Obama is terrible, but they will make excuses for Romney because he has an ‘R’ next to his name.”

She clarified that she does not want to see Republicans lose, but believes the same powerful forces are behind both candidates.

Aitken sees Romney’s business background as a weakness in appealing to Tea Party voters. A combination of his “crony capitalism” and acceptance of bailouts conflicts with their principles, she said.

She added that Romney has avoided many Tea Party groups when he visits New Hampshire.

This anti-Romney view is not shared among all of those who identify with the group, including Mike Malzone, founder of the Merrimack, NH Tea Party. Malzone said he completely supports Romney and believes that some Tea Party members should end their obsession with Ron Paul.

“Ron Paul gave up being a doctor to be a career politician,” he said. “He hasn’t done much over the past 30 years, and we cannot be pulling in a third candidate now.”

Jennifer Horn, founder of We the People: A First in the Nation Freedom Forum, has fully backed Romney and believes that many other Tea Party voters and activists are doing the same. His core message of economic growth and cutting the size of government falls right in line with their beliefs.

“He is clearly the one who is going to lead us back to the founding principles of country,” said Horn.

She said that New Hampshire’s Tea Party movement has no defined leadership, and is comprised of dozens of different groups and voters across the state. Many of the “leaders” in the state who feel that the Tea Party is not behind Romney do not represent the whole movement, she added.

Horn did have some sound advice for Romney, saying he should stay on message and keep his campaign promises.

Because, as recent election cycles have proven: Hell hath no fury like a political activist scorned.

Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Wow that's such a coherent and intelligent post Mimi. I guess we all know what leftists think about others expressing their opinions and exercising their rights.... it's a scam and we should just keep our mouths shut unless we agree with socialism, right? I thought so. Govt is not supposed to provide jobs, the free market is. I am sure the farm bill is an issue that has been acted upon often. The military is one of our biggest issues... we want the boys home from all countries. And we never heard of any camel farmer... Sometimes I wonder if you people read or just shoot off your mouths first? No don't you feel like a fool?
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Jack I wonder where you have seen anything religious or about abortion on the tea party website? Yes we believe in the freedom to keep and bear arms with no restrictions 100% as it is provided for in our Constitution. It is why NH is one of the safest most crime free states in which to live. Try going to DC where guns are banned and see how safe you are... And health care, affordable or otherwise, is not a 'right' and is NOT supposed to be guaranteed by government. If you keep looking to government to give you "your rights" which are really entitlements, and everything else, we'll end up like Greece. Did you know that NH, thanks to Jeanne Shaheen, practically made Anthem insurance a monopoly, thus driving up prices and eliminating choice? Yes your lovely Shaheen did that, the one who got 20% on the freedom index. Free market insures choice and thus competitive pricing. You are way off base with the rest of the nonsense you posted.
Scott Morales June 23, 2012 at 01:37 PM
That's hillarious. Conflating individual liberty with "rights for affordable health care"[sic], lol. Love it. And then in the same sentence: "family control over end-of-life decision". OMG, where to start. Firstly, every definition of "individual liberty" does not provide for the conscription of others to provide a right for you, which is required to provide "affordable health care" as a right. Secondly, if it is a right, then it's the government's responsibility to ensure that it's not violated and providing "affordable health care" must be done for all with limited resources. This means that some entity, government or private, must see to its administration, which includes the managing of resources and deciding on what or whom something is funded. That includes deciding if gramma is going to recieve the funds for a decision and, if she and her family are unable to afford the outcome of that decision, the administrator must decided. Thus removing the "family control over end-of-life decisions".
Tammy June 23, 2012 at 02:08 PM
ForThePeople: Great post!
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 02:11 PM
"First we re-educate... then we assume control of energy, food, and health care. Then we have the people where we want them." ~ Josef Stalin
ForThePeople June 23, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Who said that learning languages is a unique characteristic of IB? Your logical fallacies, poor reading comprehension, xenophobia…it all adds up to your own confusion.
Tammy June 23, 2012 at 03:34 PM
I perused your website and found it was mostly links to conspiracy sites. WND, John Birch Society, Glen Beck, Fox,etc...Anti-Agenda 21 groups are not considered credible by most. All the above engage in fear mongering and misrepresentation as well as promoting extreme theocratic principles.
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 04:06 PM
And all of those lead to the UN's websites, which are fraught with Agenda 21. Where do you think the material came from? Excuses as usual. Those are not 'conspiracy' sites but link directly to the UN itself. There is nothing 'theocratic' about opposing Agenda 21, however, we know that's a Democrat/Socialist talking point of the day. Don't you people think for yourself ever? Democrats have sites against Agenda 21 as well, such as this one: http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/ Anyone who claims there is no Agenda 21 is either not credible or has a complete inability to read the plethora of information out there.
ForThePeople June 23, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Jane, why not give some specifics of the conspiracy theory you are talking about, with quotes and references? I'm sure it will be entertaining. Just pasting links that lead to other links with crazy conspiracy theories… it's not helping. We need specifics here. And no, quoting Joseph Stalin is not going to do anything but reinforce your disconnect from reality. Other personalities you should stay away from in your explanation: Glenn Beck- anything related to Fox news actually- and Koch brothers literature.
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Anyone who claims that Agenda 21 doesn't exist is, as I said, either being very disingenuous or can't read. What do you think was going on in RIO de Janeiro all last week? I guess that was a crazy conspiracy theory put forth by the UN? In fact what YOU are saying is a crazy conspiracy theory, and the equivalent to "the sun does not exist no matter how brightly it is shining". You are ridiculous and to be ridiculed. Please stop wasting my time with this idiocy. You are making fools of yourselves at this point. Rio was the UN confab that took place in lavish surroundings, all while suggesting we take less showers. In 1992 they got many countries to agree to Agenda 21... and continue to push it in our towns. Here is ONE of thousands of articles about RIO and Agenda 21. http://www.uncsd2012.org/about.html End of Story.. No more questions answered about it here, this is off-topic.
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 04:51 PM
"Glenn Beck- anything related to Fox news actually- and Koch brothers literature." None of which I have posted here... as usual.. Lies. I don't think the word "Koch" has ever left my mouth, either.. EVER, since I/we have nothing to do with them, nor the other two entities you love to pull out of your talking points of the day..
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 04:53 PM
YEP, even more crazy conspiracy theories going on in Windham and Salem. http://windham.patch.com/articles/letter-why-town-shouldn-t-have-approved-sci
Tammy June 23, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Who is claiming it does not exist? Personally, I think the guidelines are well researched and positive for humanity. I just don't agree that it is part of some "New World Order" conspiracy.
Tammy June 23, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Sure is...
ForThePeople June 23, 2012 at 06:34 PM
Please tell us why Rio+20 is a horrible event. What I'm reading is about sustainable resources. Frankly, I'm too terrified to read the next link. What if it's about saving the rain forest or something equally un-American? The next thing you know, they're going to start talking about how all men and women are created equal (an improvement upon our Declaration of Independence).
ForThePeople June 23, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Here is an example of the kind of crazy from that link: "Another is to reduce “Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT).” Take a moment and let that sink in… the government wants to track each of our Vehicle Miles Traveled... As I read through those documents and learned many of the details of this program, two thoughts kept coming to mind: (1) James Madison’s warning that Liberty and Property are inseparable, and (2) Karl Marx’ statement “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”" You two must be kindred spirits. I guess we shouldn't have any programs, ideas or discussions about how to improve the human condition, our way of life, sustainable behavior, or economic injustice. Whenever someone pulls out Karl Marx, it always makes me roll my eyes. Keep going with the conspiracy theories. :-)
James R. Ruston June 23, 2012 at 06:54 PM
Jane: It has truly been said that a rigid ideology makes a fool of the ideologue. And there is no better example than you.
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 07:38 PM
I don't know James.... the people here that can do nothing but name-call seem like the ideologues to me. They must feel embarrassed after visiting the link I gave them on the UN website... right from the horse's mouth, since they made no comment on whether that is fantasy or reality. The UN has thousands of such pages about their plans. http://www.uncsd2012.org/about.html Also, to @ForThePeople: The VMT tax is nothing new. They have talked about it in Europe and now in Massachusetts. In fact the planning group there has put together a presentation on it. There is no excuse for being so out of the loop. http://willbrownsberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MAPC_Reardon_Climate-Change-Committee-4_13_10.pdf And here it is being discussed again, from thousands of places in the country that have posted their talk about "VMT". http://www.commonwealthmagazine.org/The-Download/Will-a-vehicle-miles-traveled-tax-fly-in-Massachusetts.aspx It's hard to have conversations with people as ill-informed as some of you, who think everything is a 'conspiracy theory' just because you are so wrapped up in your parochial ways of life you never heard of the subject. When something presents itself as clearly and obviously as Agenda 21, it makes YOU the conspiracy theorist to say it isn't happening. I guess that would make you a "denier" as well. Keep living with your head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.
Jane Aitken June 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM
You can like the idea to save the rain forest if you want, but they need to keep their greedy hands off my property and water. They have a nerve to be whooping it up in the best hotels in RIO drinking wine while advocating we have less children, take less showers, and give up our cars... yeah right! http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/ "Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment." I'm still betting you are going to ignore the Agenda 21 stuff from the UN source just as you will gloss over the naivete over the VMT... you should just give it up. Your progressive talking points (calling me a "racist, mean, theocrat, conspiracy theorist", etc) are not only old, boring clichés, and very predictable but they are ineffective against facts.
Patriot June 23, 2012 at 08:12 PM
DID I JUST READ A COMMENT about a horse as a tax write off from @Barbara? You can't make this stuff up fast enough!!!! Just so everyone knows, we don't have many choices left! Looks pretty clear it will be Obama/ Romney
ForThePeople June 23, 2012 at 11:02 PM
That's the thing. Nobody called you a racist, mean, theocratic conspiracy theorist. I did call you xenophobic, but that's because you are! Your reply to that was that you studied multiple languages in high school. How am I supposed to take you seriously? The fact you are worried about the rainforest and sustainable energy somehow ruining your life because it's part of some secret agenda… it's not any secret, environmentalists have been trying to change our behavior to sustainable for years. Years. And it's a good idea. As soon as it makes sense financially, I'm sure you'll start to see people jump on board. Until then, we get McCarthyism baloney from extremists like yourself.
Jane Aitken June 24, 2012 at 02:27 AM
@ForThePeople: Search on the words (racist, mean, theocratic conspiracy theorist and xenophobic) and you'll find them sprinkled throughout. You then admit "I did call you xenophobic, but that's because you are!" Really? That's a pretty derogatory statement to make about someone. Wanna prove it? You are a name caller, is all, anything you've heard on MoveOn.org, DailyKos, or Chris Matthews will do. That tells a lot about you. And can you prove your libelous utterings? What proof do you have that I am 'xenophobic'? I doubt you have anything that would stand up in court of law, say, if I filed a libel suit? My reply to that was that I studied multiple languages in high school because I did. People who don't read the IB documents wrongly claim the story we somehow don't like IB because we are somehow against studying foreign languages. What a joke. (Or that you need IB to help you do that too? Does IBO own the rights to the French language?)
Jane Aitken June 24, 2012 at 02:28 AM
@ForThePeople: How am I supposed to take YOU seriously when you are not even arguing to the point? You are correct about Agenda 21, Sustainable development and all the other wacky extremist controlling plans that are being made by the nutjobs at the UN. You said it was a 'theory' and I said it's not a 'theory' and not any secret. Now you agree with me. How easily you bend in the wind. Environmentalists have been trying to change our behavior to sustainable for years so how can it be a 'theory'? Only now they are overstepping their bounds and trying to affect our laws, locally. You are very weak debater. Proof is I now I can add one more name to the list... go away little boy, you're witless arguments are boring me. Calling us McCarthyites because we would like to retain ownership of the water under our own property. How dare we! Pfffft.
Rudy Gonzales June 24, 2012 at 03:52 AM
Do not kid yourselves! The TEA party is alive and well locally, at the state level and now pushing into national politics. The TEA-Republicans are dead-set on blocking everything Obama is for. All the fancy prose and poetry sounds good and may hold water in some cases, But TEA party-ers will vote and they will not vote for Obama and will hold court with the Romney camp to infuse their skewed ideas and ideals into their party. They may not like it, but they will hold their noses when they vote. It's at the local level and state level where the most control is implemented by these fringe politicians. Ron and Rand Paul are the catalysts for soldiering forward with their own issues, even at the expense of their party and the country. It's at the local level where people are using the (R) instead of the (T) to run for office, and where the most control over money, infrastructure, repairs, Social Program administration have the greatest impact. People may not want to vote straight Democratic ticket, but Democrats have shown inclusiveness of all Americans, no matter race, color or creed. That is America!
Scott Morales June 24, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Exactly what are the "skewed and ideas and ideals" you mention? Also, you left off a part of the last few lines, it should read: "...Democrats have shown inclusiveness of all Americans, no matter race, color or creed, so long as they agree with them. That is not America!"
Jane Aitken July 20, 2012 at 03:38 PM
More proof of states thinking to act on my 'conspiracy' of the VMT tax which I see the 'foot in mouth' crowd have not yet commented on. Yep it's a conspiracy alright, to tax the bajeebers out of all of us, from the nuts in the USA on behalf of the nuts at the UN. When your appointees at the 'regional planning commissions' started measuring your emissions you can bet that's what it's for... taxing you for your carbon footprint. Bay Area Drivers Could Be Tracked By GPS, Taxed Per Mile Driven « CBS San Francisco http://cbsloc.al/Pj7xBX Democrats are inclusively offensive.
Jane Aitken July 20, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Yep vote Democrat if you want taxes on water, beer, campgrounds and bedrooms! These are actual taxes that were proposed by our Dem legislature in the 2006-2010 sessions. Plus, no overlooking that $800M deficit...
Dennis Taylor August 26, 2012 at 06:47 PM
Even inclusiveness of people who are not American at the clear economic expense of those who are!!! That is the corrupt American way, but it is wrong and ultimately will put alot of current welfare recipients out in the streets. The Democrat who shelters an illegal Mexican is an enemy of his black supporter. Republicans need to help those here who are the legal children of legal parents, regardless of race. Sticky babies need to go back home and corrupt employers need to lose their wealth as a punishment for cheating legal workers out of a market wage.
News Flash August 26, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Tea Partiers know who to vote for. It aint Obama.
Atlant August 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Whether, in a vacuum, we would supoport Barack Obama or not is immaterial; we're not operating in a vacuum. And against Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, the Koch Brothers, Newt Gingrich, Roger Ailes, Grover Norquist, John Bainer, and a host of other very evil people, we on the Left are very happily united to support President Obama.


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